THE SELF

Posted by explogame On Tuesday 17 February 2015 0 comments

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Christians, Buddhists, Taoists and others might agree that we should try to be selfless.

There is a belief that we can achieve 'the peace that passeth all understanding' by being selfless.

Buddhism and Taoism, however, warn against extreme self-sacrifice.


selflessness.

Buddhism has an interesting view of the 'self' and the 'soul'.

"If the word 'soul' refers to a non-bodily component in a person that can continue in some way after death, then Buddhism does not deny the existence of a soul.[4] 

"In fact, persons are said to be characterized by an ever-evolving consciousness."



"Just as the body changes from moment to moment, so thoughts come and go; there is no permanent conscious substance that experiences these thoughts...

"When the body dies, the mental processes continue and are reborn in a new body.[4] 

"Because the mental processes are constantly changing, the new being is neither exactly the same as, nor completely different from, the being that died.[9]

"Buddhism rejects the notion of a permanent self, but does not reject the notion of a self consisting of constantly changing physical and mental phenomena..[10] 

"Early Buddhist scriptures describe an enlightened individual as someone whose changing self is highly developed."



Buddha did not say that 'the self' exists or does not exist.

Why? 

He did not want us to 'grasp' or 'cling' to the idea of 'self' because that can cause suffering. 

He did not want us to 'grasp' a or 'cling' to the idea of not having a 'self' because that can cause suffering. 

The Buddha advised paying no attention to such questions as "Do I exist?"

No-self or Not-self? 



"What distinguishes Jungian psychology is the idea that there are two centers of the personality.

"The ego is the center of consciousness, whereas the Self is the center of the total personality, which includes consciousness, the unconscious, and the ego. 

"The Self is both the whole and the center. While the ego is a self-contained little center of the circle contained within the whole, the Self can be understood as the greater circle".[2]



Abraham Maslow (above) refers to "self-transcendence", which means "to experience, unite with and serve that which is beyond the individual self: the unity of all being."

"Self-transcendence is a personality trait associated with experiencing spiritual ideas[1] such as considering oneself a part of the universe."[2] 


Claude Robert Cloninger

Self-transcendence is one of the "character" dimensions of personality assessed in Cloninger's Temperament and Character Inventory.[2]

"Cloninger found that psychiatric patients tend to be lower in self-transcendence compared with adults in the general population.[2]

"However, low cooperativeness and self-directedness combined with high self-transcendence may result in openness to odd or unusual ideas and behaviours associated with distorted perceptions of reality."[4]



In the video below, psychologist Jonathan Haidt (above) speaks about 'self-transcendence'.



George Dunn responds after viewing Jonathan Haidt’s TED talk:

Is Self-Transcendence Unique to Humans? | TheBentAngle.

"I'm not convinced that the sort of 'self-transcendence' Haidt discusses is always such a great thing. 

"RenĂ© Girard's theory helps us to understand that group cohesion is often, maybe even typically, forged at the expense of some enemy or scapegoat. 

"Also, I’m not sure that what he describes is so much 'transcending' the ego as it is a vast expansion of it. 

"Finally, I’m always wary when people start talking about the 'sacred,' having learned from Girard and others to associate the sacred with violence, oppression, and obfuscation. 

"Altruism, as I understand it, doesn't have to depend on some 'sacred' merger of one's personality identity with the group. 

"To the contrary, wouldn't genuine altruism be a matter of responding to the alterity (otherness) of the other person and recognizing her unique identity as a separate person, rather than simply responding to some identity that we both share? 

"In any case, Haidt's account of self-transcendence doesn't explain why we - and other animals - are sometimes willing to stick our necks out for others who are not members of our own group or even our own species. 

"Maybe he would explain that sort of altruism as a 'bug,' rather than an adaptation. In any case, it seems to me that altruism can’t simply be reduced to the sort of vertical self-transcendence he describes."







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